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This particular article has been published at
http://cathophile.blogspot.com/ ,
http://alljci.blogspot.com/ ,
http://drzz.info/
and http://monde-info.blogspot.com/ .
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The Catholic Church in France is far from out of the crisis.
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An anthropological reflection on faith.
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By Michael Withers, journalist, essayist Catholic
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Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 11 Heshvan 5771
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The Catholic Church in France is far from out of the crisis, almost. Already, for starters, Christian Unity remains a pious wish, the Catholic French were showing unable to stay - at first - united among themselves.
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For indeed, for forty years, the Catholic Church in France is divided into traditionalists (by themselves they would be "the Church always") progressive, charismatic (they would be "a chance for the Church"), modernist, conservative, Catholic-socialist, Catholic-de-l'UMP, Catholic Christine Boutin, Catholic Sire Philippe de Villiers, etc.. etc.. etc..
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One can always retort that this would be a natural diversity of Catholics in France, natural diversity that lie within the unity of the Catholic Church in France. To which I reply that the problem is not diversity in unity.
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The problem is that through the life and writings saints and saints, the Roman Catholic Church was built in 2000 years, an anthropology of the human person, but that anthropology no longer lived in the Catholic Church in France.
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It is not even experienced by those who, with false humility, claim re-teach (or re-invent?) This anthropology - Catholic, Christian and Judeo-Christian - of the human person.
-
Thus, Bernardine College in Paris, such a priest from the charismatic renewal states that everyone must forge his own philosophy, which is not exactly what one is right to expect from a university college that teaches Catholic theology and then stop to say that this College is a Catholic and appending it to the Sorbonne.
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Similarly, the Institute of Comparative Philosophy (CPI), also in Paris, became the place of social gatherings (for weddings?) For cathos preppy, sometimes conservative, sometimes traditionalists, but in both cases, secluded in a vacuum, light years away from the real challenges facing the Church, including the crucial question of the spectrum of the caliphate that weighs on Europe.
-
crucial question developed by historian Bat Ye'or in "Europe and the spectrum of the Caliphate ', published by The province, in 2010; question I back at my TV interview with ZE MAG last September (in the series College Bernardine and Institute of Comparative Philosophy, could be cited, but would be ridiculous, to Nongiugruob Soporhtnalihp Institute, founded by Nicomedes Santa Butterfly, head of the household Eufrankenstein at Yessanipe, near the town of Agony at Muristan).
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Regarding the crisis in the Catholic Church in France, some recent events, occurring within it, confirm it - if we had yet to confirm - that this same Church is far from out of the crisis.
-
In September 2010, News France, made a brief assessment of provisional States-General of Christianity (the term "general state of Christianity 'forming already, itself, a form both anachronistic, vain and misguided): "An assembly rather old, and very often the reader of Life (Michael Withers Note: 'Life', Media alter-Catholic at the edge of bankruptcy), worried about the gap between today's Church and his own faith. "Humanae Vitae (Encyclical on life) marks a setback from the council" deplores such as Jean-Pierre Mignard, avocat (Catholic socialist) who advocates "a new council" bottom ".
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'News from France, adds: "In the auditorium, the speakers are more forthright:" I do not agree with Mr. Tugduall Derville, how can you be sure to hold the truth? " asked one participant in the national delegate of the Alliance for Human Life, Association for the dignity of the embryo, during the debate "a Christian can get out-of-law?". "We are young, it does not arise at all these issues". "
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'News from France is continuing, "" Me, I agree with Benedict XVI. I do not recognize myself in the assembly, "complained a student at the exit to a professor of theology at the IIFAC , a structure attached to the Institut Catholique (Note to Michael Withers' the Catho, who by dint of relativism and islamophile is less and less Catholic), who replies: "This is a generation that has been marked by Mai 68. But feel free to express yourself, to show just another face of the Church ...". But youth is conspicuous by its absence. (...) "That's Life, which holds, it immediately gives me less desire to go," says Jean-Francois, a young professional near the Chemin Neuf (Note from Michael Withers: a new community). "Readers of The Life to me is that these cathos meet in the evening but do not go to Mass on Sunday "he continues."
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'News from France, writes: "Leaving a conference, Pauline, Master student of history, is rising:" These are people who have discomfort in their faith, Church and want to adapt to them rather than not. They do not know anything and they want to speak anyway. (...) And then they complain that the Church does not move, but it is them who are struggling to move! ".
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'News from France' concluded by quoting this student:" It's all rather Gabriel smile, student, too: "Should we expect anything else? The simple proposition 'of the States-General of Christianity', organized at the initiative of a single newspaper Franco-French at the edge of bankruptcy a little smile "(Note to Michael Withers: it makes her smile, in fact and for the next Franco-French However, it seems that the "States General of Christianity" have welcomed a non-farnçais, one in the person of the ubiquitous Nicomedes Santa Butterfly, head of the household Eufrankenstein at Yessanipe, near the town of Agony at Muristan).
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Another recent event occurred within the Catholic Church in France: the "fine step" smoothly from Rome by the Holy See, the French Catholic communities as "new" or say "charismatic .
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In this regard, the French Catholic Blog 'The lounge beige', October 2010, cites An article in the French Catholic weekly 'Christian Family': "The P. Henry Donneaud , Dominican Province of Toulouse, previously assistant to the religious community Beatitudes , was appointed Sept. 30 by the Prefect of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life Apostolic Papal commissioner. His main task will be to guide the community in redefining its status. He was interrogated in Family Christian : "At first the community was Beatitudes composed primarily of lay people who wanted to live in community radicalism of the Gospel ".
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'Christian Family' adds, citing the Father Donneaud" "Then came to her bosom men and women who felt called to celibacy, and began to wear the dress. They have become the majority. It is a grace, but it was problematic, because we can not ask the laity to govern the religious, any more than not. The Church is anxious to respect the greatness of every state of life. Theology of marriage requires the sovereignty of spouses, Then a monk abandons his life in the hands of a superior. They can not have the same 'shepherd'.
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'Christian Family' continues, citing Donneaud Father, "" The community has suffered a real hemorrhage in recent years, a good third of the members left. This process has created a shock among many. (...) The Community of the Beatitudes is far from the new community most affected (Note to Michael Withers: So saying, Father Donneaud is charitable and is to his credit, it said, these are the all the Catholic communities called "new" or "charismatic" which are covered by the Holy See, in effect, rules that the Congregation for Institutes of apostolic life, put in place within the community of the Beatitudes, these rules will be implemented by the Holy See in all communities and fraternities, and in this respect, the community of the Beatitudes, which contains no substantive defect usually will be fewer rules to establish some eccentric communities and fraternities which govern the consecrated lay Home laity, women govern men, men govern women, the religious governing lay free electrons govern those they want, do what they want and say what they want without it being allowed to say "bah! "Or even" phew! ").
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'Christian Family' concludes, quoting Father Donneaud "" It (the community of Beatitudes) contains no substantive defect general. On the role of the 'shepherd', a process of clarification is necessary. Some germs sixty eighters-or idealistic characteristics of a fledgling community will disappear. I think the concept of shepherd will no longer exist in the new statutes, since the states of life will separate branches. As the founder Ephraim, to my knowledge there is no longer part of the community, while still regarded and respected as the founder ".
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The Catholic Church in France is also in crisis because of all leanings ( modernists, progressives, traditionalists, conservatives, charismatic), it regularly insult - it ment - American Christian people, the Jewish people in diaspora and the Jewish people in Israel. Indeed, the Catholic Church of France, all tendencies , for example, has lent its support to organizations Mohammedan jihadi as "NGO" Turkish fundamentalist who had set up the sting in the fleet for Hamastan, aka Strip.
-
Thus, on the Site French Catholic 'Christians in the City' ( http://chretiensdanslacite.com/ ), I researched, some time ago, the prose here is distressing that which I do not know if it is still there or if it was removed a posteriori (excerpts): "Several Catholic organizations condemn the attack against the convoy to Gaza. Christians in the city joins in denouncing state terrorism of Israel, rogue state "(Note Michael Withers: So, the signatories of this prestigious prose distressing signatories that I mention later in this article, the signatories denounced" the state terrorism of Israel, rogue state "is this the official view of the Catholic Church in France? Is this the official view of the universal Church, the Vatican and the Holy See?).
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Prose distressing continued: "Justice and Peace-France, France Mission, Pax Christi France, Christians in the Mediterranean, the Catholic Committee against Hunger and for Development and Relief Catholic strongly condemn the attack by Israeli troops against the fleet that was trying to reach Gaza. " Prose distressing added this: "These organizations express their deep indignation and serious concern. Their thoughts are with the many victims who are to be deplored and their families "(End of excerpts from prose distressing published on the Site French Catholic 'Christians in the City').
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The signatories of this appalling prose? They are: Bishop Michel Dubost, President of Justice and Peace-France, Monsignor Yves Paternoster, bishop of the Mission of France Marc Bishop Stenger, president of Pax Christi France; J-Claude Petit, President of Christians in the Mediterranean; Relieves Francis, president of Catholic Relief Services, and Guy Aurenche, president of the Catholic Committee against Hunger and for Development.
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The French Catholics have denounced "the state terrorism of Israel, a rogue state." Prestigious signatories - Gentlemen by it and by then presidents - who returned to their account, the version of the flotilla, the version given by fundamentalist terrorists of Hamas and the Turkish fundamentalist Erdogan, Prime Minister and leader of his country Turkish Islamic party. The version of the fleet version given by the dictators of Syria, Libya and Iran, the television channel Al Jazeera, the Arab League and the Organization of Islamic Conference.
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These prestigious signatories - over here and Gentlemen Presidents by then - were they consulted, even if only once, videos, photos and articles on the Turkish fleet to the jihadist Hamastan , videos, photos and articles that we published (among many other sites and many blogs) on http://drzz.info/ and http://monde-info.blogspot.com/ ?
-
In conclusion, we can try to understand the origins of the crisis of faith in the Catholic Church in general and especially in the Catholic Church in France? What the French Catholics were they afraid? Whence this autism and this anachronism that makes them blind to the spectrum of the caliphate weighing all his weight on France Judeo-Christian?
-
Where does this renewed Judeophobia, the French Catholic blogosphere, which publishes "Comments" and "posts" such as we had not played since the year 1930-1940 in the press Vichy? Yet once: what the French Catholics were they afraid? Where does this need to nurture their faith, or rather, their lack of faith, by conspiracy theories totally absurd, totally surreal, usually drawn by France in the land of Islam?
-
Their aggressiveness - such as a new Judeophobia - is it an aggression that hides a sense of guilt and fear? Why do they not bear the slightest criticism? Are they afraid of any retribution (Vergeltung)? Or are they afraid of the state of abandonment (Verlassenheit) in God's hands? Are allergic the concept of free society Judeo-Christian? Victims of National Socialism, the victims of Soviet communism and the victims of Islamic terrorism would they then died for nothing and without that we draw the real lesson?
-
Copyright 2010 Michael Withers, journalist, essayist Catholic
-
This particular article has been published at
http://cathophile.blogspot.com/ ,
http://alljci.blogspot.com/ ,
http://drzz.info/
and http://monde-info.blogspot.com/ .
-
-
-
The Catholic Church in France is far from out of the crisis.
-
An anthropological reflection on faith.
-
By Michael Withers, journalist, essayist Catholic
-
Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 11 Heshvan 5771
-
The Catholic Church in France is far from out of the crisis, almost. Already, for starters, Christian Unity remains a pious wish, the Catholic French were showing unable to stay - at first - united among themselves.
-
For indeed, for forty years, the Catholic Church in France is divided into traditionalists (by themselves they would be "the Church always") progressive, charismatic (they would be "a chance for the Church"), modernist, conservative, Catholic-socialist, Catholic-de-l'UMP, Catholic Christine Boutin, Catholic Sire Philippe de Villiers, etc.. etc.. etc..
-
One can always retort that this would be a natural diversity of Catholics in France, natural diversity that lie within the unity of the Catholic Church in France. To which I reply that the problem is not diversity in unity.
-
The problem is that through the life and writings saints and saints, the Roman Catholic Church was built in 2000 years, an anthropology of the human person, but that anthropology no longer lived in the Catholic Church in France.
-
It is not even experienced by those who, with false humility, claim re-teach (or re-invent?) This anthropology - Catholic, Christian and Judeo-Christian - of the human person.
-
Thus, Bernardine College in Paris, such a priest from the charismatic renewal states that everyone must forge his own philosophy, which is not exactly what one is right to expect from a university college that teaches Catholic theology and then stop to say that this College is a Catholic and appending it to the Sorbonne.
-
Similarly, the Institute of Comparative Philosophy (CPI), also in Paris, became the place of social gatherings (for weddings?) For cathos preppy, sometimes conservative, sometimes traditionalists, but in both cases, secluded in a vacuum, light years away from the real challenges facing the Church, including the crucial question of the spectrum of the caliphate that weighs on Europe.
-
crucial question developed by historian Bat Ye'or in "Europe and the spectrum of the Caliphate ', published by The province, in 2010; question I back at my TV interview with ZE MAG last September (in the series College Bernardine and Institute of Comparative Philosophy, could be cited, but would be ridiculous, to Nongiugruob Soporhtnalihp Institute, founded by Nicomedes Santa Butterfly, head of the household Eufrankenstein at Yessanipe, near the town of Agony at Muristan).
-
Regarding the crisis in the Catholic Church in France, some recent events, occurring within it, confirm it - if we had yet to confirm - that this same Church is far from out of the crisis.
-
In September 2010, News France, made a brief assessment of provisional States-General of Christianity (the term "general state of Christianity 'forming already, itself, a form both anachronistic, vain and misguided): "An assembly rather old, and very often the reader of Life (Michael Withers Note: 'Life', Media alter-Catholic at the edge of bankruptcy), worried about the gap between today's Church and his own faith. "Humanae Vitae (Encyclical on life) marks a setback from the council" deplores such as Jean-Pierre Mignard, avocat (Catholic socialist) who advocates "a new council" bottom ".
-
'News from France, adds: "In the auditorium, the speakers are more forthright:" I do not agree with Mr. Tugduall Derville, how can you be sure to hold the truth? " asked one participant in the national delegate of the Alliance for Human Life, Association for the dignity of the embryo, during the debate "a Christian can get out-of-law?". "We are young, it does not arise at all these issues". "
-
'News from France is continuing, "" Me, I agree with Benedict XVI. I do not recognize myself in the assembly, "complained a student at the exit to a professor of theology at the IIFAC , a structure attached to the Institut Catholique (Note to Michael Withers' the Catho, who by dint of relativism and islamophile is less and less Catholic), who replies: "This is a generation that has been marked by Mai 68. But feel free to express yourself, to show just another face of the Church ...". But youth is conspicuous by its absence. (...) "That's Life, which holds, it immediately gives me less desire to go," says Jean-Francois, a young professional near the Chemin Neuf (Note from Michael Withers: a new community). "Readers of The Life to me is that these cathos meet in the evening but do not go to Mass on Sunday "he continues."
-
'News from France, writes: "Leaving a conference, Pauline, Master student of history, is rising:" These are people who have discomfort in their faith, Church and want to adapt to them rather than not. They do not know anything and they want to speak anyway. (...) And then they complain that the Church does not move, but it is them who are struggling to move! ".
-
'News from France' concluded by quoting this student:" It's all rather Gabriel smile, student, too: "Should we expect anything else? The simple proposition 'of the States-General of Christianity', organized at the initiative of a single newspaper Franco-French at the edge of bankruptcy a little smile "(Note to Michael Withers: it makes her smile, in fact and for the next Franco-French However, it seems that the "States General of Christianity" have welcomed a non-farnçais, one in the person of the ubiquitous Nicomedes Santa Butterfly, head of the household Eufrankenstein at Yessanipe, near the town of Agony at Muristan).
-
Another recent event occurred within the Catholic Church in France: the "fine step" smoothly from Rome by the Holy See, the French Catholic communities as "new" or say "charismatic .
-
In this regard, the French Catholic Blog 'The lounge beige', October 2010, cites An article in the French Catholic weekly 'Christian Family': "The P. Henry Donneaud , Dominican Province of Toulouse, previously assistant to the religious community Beatitudes , was appointed Sept. 30 by the Prefect of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life Apostolic Papal commissioner. His main task will be to guide the community in redefining its status. He was interrogated in Family Christian : "At first the community was Beatitudes composed primarily of lay people who wanted to live in community radicalism of the Gospel ".
-
'Christian Family' adds, citing the Father Donneaud" "Then came to her bosom men and women who felt called to celibacy, and began to wear the dress. They have become the majority. It is a grace, but it was problematic, because we can not ask the laity to govern the religious, any more than not. The Church is anxious to respect the greatness of every state of life. Theology of marriage requires the sovereignty of spouses, Then a monk abandons his life in the hands of a superior. They can not have the same 'shepherd'.
-
'Christian Family' continues, citing Donneaud Father, "" The community has suffered a real hemorrhage in recent years, a good third of the members left. This process has created a shock among many. (...) The Community of the Beatitudes is far from the new community most affected (Note to Michael Withers: So saying, Father Donneaud is charitable and is to his credit, it said, these are the all the Catholic communities called "new" or "charismatic" which are covered by the Holy See, in effect, rules that the Congregation for Institutes of apostolic life, put in place within the community of the Beatitudes, these rules will be implemented by the Holy See in all communities and fraternities, and in this respect, the community of the Beatitudes, which contains no substantive defect usually will be fewer rules to establish some eccentric communities and fraternities which govern the consecrated lay Home laity, women govern men, men govern women, the religious governing lay free electrons govern those they want, do what they want and say what they want without it being allowed to say "bah! "Or even" phew! ").
-
'Christian Family' concludes, quoting Father Donneaud "" It (the community of Beatitudes) contains no substantive defect general. On the role of the 'shepherd', a process of clarification is necessary. Some germs sixty eighters-or idealistic characteristics of a fledgling community will disappear. I think the concept of shepherd will no longer exist in the new statutes, since the states of life will separate branches. As the founder Ephraim, to my knowledge there is no longer part of the community, while still regarded and respected as the founder ".
-
The Catholic Church in France is also in crisis because of all leanings ( modernists, progressives, traditionalists, conservatives, charismatic), it regularly insult - it ment - American Christian people, the Jewish people in diaspora and the Jewish people in Israel. Indeed, the Catholic Church of France, all tendencies , for example, has lent its support to organizations Mohammedan jihadi as "NGO" Turkish fundamentalist who had set up the sting in the fleet for Hamastan, aka Strip.
-
Thus, on the Site French Catholic 'Christians in the City' ( http://chretiensdanslacite.com/ ), I researched, some time ago, the prose here is distressing that which I do not know if it is still there or if it was removed a posteriori (excerpts): "Several Catholic organizations condemn the attack against the convoy to Gaza. Christians in the city joins in denouncing state terrorism of Israel, rogue state "(Note Michael Withers: So, the signatories of this prestigious prose distressing signatories that I mention later in this article, the signatories denounced" the state terrorism of Israel, rogue state "is this the official view of the Catholic Church in France? Is this the official view of the universal Church, the Vatican and the Holy See?).
-
Prose distressing continued: "Justice and Peace-France, France Mission, Pax Christi France, Christians in the Mediterranean, the Catholic Committee against Hunger and for Development and Relief Catholic strongly condemn the attack by Israeli troops against the fleet that was trying to reach Gaza. " Prose distressing added this: "These organizations express their deep indignation and serious concern. Their thoughts are with the many victims who are to be deplored and their families "(End of excerpts from prose distressing published on the Site French Catholic 'Christians in the City').
-
The signatories of this appalling prose? They are: Bishop Michel Dubost, President of Justice and Peace-France, Monsignor Yves Paternoster, bishop of the Mission of France Marc Bishop Stenger, president of Pax Christi France; J-Claude Petit, President of Christians in the Mediterranean; Relieves Francis, president of Catholic Relief Services, and Guy Aurenche, president of the Catholic Committee against Hunger and for Development.
-
The French Catholics have denounced "the state terrorism of Israel, a rogue state." Prestigious signatories - Gentlemen by it and by then presidents - who returned to their account, the version of the flotilla, the version given by fundamentalist terrorists of Hamas and the Turkish fundamentalist Erdogan, Prime Minister and leader of his country Turkish Islamic party. The version of the fleet version given by the dictators of Syria, Libya and Iran, the television channel Al Jazeera, the Arab League and the Organization of Islamic Conference.
-
These prestigious signatories - over here and Gentlemen Presidents by then - were they consulted, even if only once, videos, photos and articles on the Turkish fleet to the jihadist Hamastan , videos, photos and articles that we published (among many other sites and many blogs) on http://drzz.info/ and http://monde-info.blogspot.com/ ?
-
In conclusion, we can try to understand the origins of the crisis of faith in the Catholic Church in general and especially in the Catholic Church in France? What the French Catholics were they afraid? Whence this autism and this anachronism that makes them blind to the spectrum of the caliphate weighing all his weight on France Judeo-Christian?
-
Where does this renewed Judeophobia, the French Catholic blogosphere, which publishes "Comments" and "posts" such as we had not played since the year 1930-1940 in the press Vichy? Yet once: what the French Catholics were they afraid? Where does this need to nurture their faith, or rather, their lack of faith, by conspiracy theories totally absurd, totally surreal, usually drawn by France in the land of Islam?
-
Their aggressiveness - such as a new Judeophobia - is it an aggression that hides a sense of guilt and fear? Why do they not bear the slightest criticism? Are they afraid of any retribution (Vergeltung)? Or are they afraid of the state of abandonment (Verlassenheit) in God's hands? Are allergic the concept of free society Judeo-Christian? Victims of National Socialism, the victims of Soviet communism and the victims of Islamic terrorism would they then died for nothing and without that we draw the real lesson?
-
Copyright 2010 Michael Withers, journalist, essayist Catholic
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